classical lit

Saturday, April 28, 2007

Wednesday May 2

Individual Presentations 4:

Ross Jenson:
  • Symposium: The immortal presence of Socrates
  • Socrates goal: attain greater knowledge and virtue
  • all we know about him is through other people, so it is questionable if we really know anything about him at all
  • Recipe for Socrates:
  • 1 cup Plato
  • 1 tbs Aristotle
  • 1 tsp Xenophon
  • a pinch of Aristophanes
  • all to be taken with a grain of salt
  • a contemporary illusion: Braveheart~ William Wallace
  • brave
  • pious
  • influential
  • leaders
  • died for a greater cause
  • Socrates death at court: he was accused of corrupting the youth and was sentenced to death by Hemlock

Sarah Flemming:

  • women abducted:
  1. Persephone
  2. Europa
  3. Psyche
  4. Agave
  5. Herself- marriage

Doug Fejes:

  • Pythagoras from Metamorphoses
  • not transformed physically like the others, but transforms the readers
  • capstone of what Ovid was saying
  • showed what man could hope to be someday
  • was a parallel between the darkness of the rest of the stories, and Pythagoras
  • Framed speech:
  1. vegetarians
  2. reflects on the themes in Ovid:
  • physical changes of the human body
  • physical changes of the elements
  • where life comes from, and how it circles back around
  • vegetarians (a lot of the same ideas are held by PETA members, and vegetarians today)

Katie Crystal:

  • how her life (present) possesses the past
  • connect stories from the world with her own life
  • Bacchus: shares the same morals (peace, love, etc.)
  • Athena: Daddy's girl
  • Demeter: her mom and Montana is Hades
  • Europa: taken away from her father by Montana
  • wants to be a teacher: tells her stories to children, so they will tell theirs too

Tyler Engel:

  • "love will tear us apart"
  • love destroys boundaries
  • Antigone: loses her brother, and wants to join him in the underworld
  • Lysistrata: destroys boundaries~ dresses the man as a woman, and helps men realize that they need women
  • egoism destroys love because it doesn't want to be sparagmosed
  • rape: unfortunate to have a pretty face in Ovid, ruins what should be sacred
  • 2 types of love: 1) love and 2) desire
  • Lucius shows us how to properly love- same morals as Diotema
  • though voluntary death you become something else bigger and better

Carly Parelius:

  • collective unconscious
  • something that you read/hear that speaks directly to you
  • exists prior to the experience
  • 'reservoir of the experience of our species' ~ Carl Jung
  • 'all things change, but never die' ~ Ovid
  • timeless mythologies
  • Synchronicity: Carl Jung

Dustin Cichosz:

  • past possesses the present
  • wrote a creative story about his experiences from last Sat
  • everything he did connected to stories that we have read
  • he was 'wasted' like Bacchus
  • Lysistrata: his roommate being controlled by his girlfriend
  • Dionysus: drinking a lot
  • Golden Ass: did stupid things
  • Hermes: wasn't his fault because he was under the influence of Dionysus
  • Symposium: talked to his roommate about love
  • everything that he experienced had happened before

Cassi Clampitt:

  • was inspired by my being 'mental impaired' by Zeus
  • the many rapes of Zeus and their children:
  1. Alcmene
  2. Danae
  3. Europa
  4. Naiad
  5. Semele (was willing)
  6. Ganymede
  7. Leto
  8. Callisto
  9. Io
  10. Leda
  • 150 total
  • moral: gods can do whatever they want

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